Sunday, 15 August 2004
We often receive emails at 4TexasHoldem asking questions about the rules of Texas Holdem, Texas Holdem strategy, or simply asking to help resolve a dispute between poker playing friends. Here is a email we recently received:
I have a simple holdem question. What constitutes a player folding his hand? Since your cards are already on the table, do you have to say "fold"? What if you throw your cards towards the dealer without saying anything?
The situation came up during a game last night. One player threw his cards toward the dealer after another declared "all-in." The person who went "all-in" thought the other player had folded and threw his cards up. The other player seeing his cards said he had not folded and proceeded to win. What constitutes folding? Thanks!
Chuck
Well Chuck, folding your hand in Texas Holdem (commonly referred to as "mucking") means to throw your cards away. This happens when a player says "fold" or when they make a gesture that signals to the dealer that they are folding, such as pushing their cards away or throwing them toward the dealer. Once this takes place, the player is out of the hand and cannot retrieve their cards for any reason.
In the example you describe, the player that moved "all-in" (Player 1) was correct when he thought the other player (Player 2) had folded. Once the cards were thrown toward the dealer, Player 2 cannot change his mind and play his hand after seeing Player 1's cards.
Here is another example. Let's say Player 1 is holding
32, Player 2 is holding
A10, and the community cards are
KQ742. At this point, Player 1, thinking his hand is beaten, makes a bluff at the pot with an "all-in" bet. He is upset when he hears Player 2 call the bet and he throws his cards toward the dealer. Player 2 flip his cards and Player 1 sees that his hand would have been best if he wouldn't have folded. Even though Player 1 had the best hand after all of the betting was complete, he folded his hand and lost the pot.
Here is my favorite story of an ill-timed muck. Daniel Negreanu (one of the best Texas Holdem players in the world) was playing in a hand where he was holding
A5. The flop brought a
1086, the turn a
7, and the river a
9. Daniel turned his cards faceup and confidently said "Straight." His opponent looked at his cards and folded. As you can see, Daniel was telling the truth. He did indeed have a straight, but his opponent had the same straight since the community cards held the best hand. If his opponent would have simply turned his cards face up, the pot would have been split. Instead, Daniel won the entire pot.
If you have any doubt, turn your cards face up. Texas Holdem is challenging enough, so don't let others win chips that you should be putting in your pile.
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